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I largely agree. I generally enjoyed the ones you ranked 27 (Ant-Man) and higher. And I didn't especially enjoy any of the ones you rank worse than 27, and I wouldn't mind if they were snapped out of existence. It's a pretty hard line. I likewise think Ultron is under-rated, Iron Man 2 was a huge letdown, and Endgame (though it's no Scorsese film) did an admirable job of bringing that whole era and set of characters to a close.

Except:

* Thor: Love and Thunder isn't great by any means, but I think it's more coherent than Ant-Man Quantumania, and more engaging than Thor: The Dark World, and I think its final act was endearing in a way. Perhaps on par with Guardians Vol 3, (which I also didn't like very much) for its similarly uneven tone, weird characterizations, and messy plot. Does any of this matter? No.

* I don't think What If? is bad at all. Nor is it good. It's just different. It just is.

* Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness was unique and some parts I really liked, but there were way too many bad parts to overlook. Feels like a film that could have been saved in editing, by cutting parts out (or off). A good film with a demon hand.

* Black Widow was pretty weak and honestly unmemorable, which is unfortunate. It's one of the most recent films I've watched and I can barely remember what happens. Would rank it low, like Eternals (for entirely different reasons).

* Black Panther: Wakanda Forever was an impossible task and (unsurprisingly) they couldn't pull it off. It was far too long, the side plots felt contrived and unnecessary, the action was uninspired, and I don't remember any of it as being fun in any way. Just depressing, from start to finish, and not a "good" way. The only good thing was the "villain" who kind of stole the show, which is a problem.

* I'd rank the first Captain America higher than 15. All the Cap films were top tier. This one I think was only as hokey/campy as intended, perfectly pulpy.

* Shang-Chi was okay, but I wouldn't rank it that high. It was engaging enough, but it felt pretty messy and uneven. At best like an Ant-man or Captain Marvel, which is to say serviceable.

* I liked WandaVision a lot when Wanda or Vision (or both!) were on screen. But the ending was underwhelming, and every scene focused on the sidekicks and supporting characters deserved a degaussing. It loses a lot of points for that.

But I can't disagree much with the rest of your top tier. Sure, a bit higher here or little lower there -- they're all great.

Unfortunately the only and surprisingly good Marvel film since Endgame (2019) was Spider-Man: No Way Home. (Though TV largely pulled its weight, and Far From Home was o-kay.) Every one of the other films either suffered from 3rd act problems of various degrees (like Eternals, Panther, Guardians, Shang-Chi) or felt like a mess (Guardians, Quantumania, Strange, Shang-Chi), or were just kind of "duds" to my mind (Widow, Panther, Quantumania). A mediocre film might get by with one of those failings, but can't survive two, while a good movie will be coherent, engaging, and deliver a smart 3rd act, together. Hopefully Marvel delivers that again, some day.

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